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Bloomberg is reporting that former Texas Governor Rick Perry is in the lead to be appointed as energy secretary, although his name isn’t alone on the shortlist, rather it is joined by Heidi Heitkamp (D-North Dakota), Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia), and Ray Washburne, who is a former chairman of the RNC.

Trump reportedly met with Perry and Washburne on Saturday while attending the Army-Navy football game in Baltimore, the second time that he has reportedly spoken to both men about potential cabinet positions. Trump met with Heitkamp on Dec. 2, and has plans to meet with Manchin later in the month in New York.

If Trump were to pick any of the four, he would be breaking with yet another tradition, this one involving picking scientists to lead the Department of Energy.

Perry, in addition to being a former governor of Texas, also was a nominee for the Republican nomination in 2012, but lost to Mitt Romney. In a debate during the primaries, Perry famously forgot that the energy department was one of the departments that he wanted to cut, a gaffe that may have contributed to his defeat. He also was indicted in 2014 for abuse of power and coercion after threatening to veto funds for a county office that investigates corruption unless the district attorney, who had pleaded guilty to driving while intoxicated, resigned.